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Revision 1.0: August 2006

The basic rules are what you agreed to when you signed up. [Refresh your memory at this link]. Whether or not you joined as a member, being here implies you agree to abide by the general rules and that you have taken note of the following additional remarks.

We have more visitors and general readers than contributors. This will probably always be the case. But we are very interested in increasing the amount of visitors who wish to post a remark or start a new topic. Please do not be discouraged by the fact that one or two contributors appear to have the lion’s share of posts! This is not to indicate that only the opinions of these few are allowed. Instead, it means that these contributors are more active than most. You are very welcome to post here and to post here often.

Any topic of local news interest is welcome as are any topics of world news interest; social issues; politics; general greetings; birthday wishes; classifieds (not spam); sports news or discussion; local events; upcoming entertainment. The headings on the various boards also give an indication of topics which are welcome.

You may also post newsletters or leaflets in their entirety. I am speaking of Parish or Community Groups here. Where links, email, or other "clickable" parts are included, try to make them work. Otherwise I don't mind editing the post to make links and email work for you if you can't manage it.

We welcome reproduction of news items from other sites here, but you should, as a matter of courtesy, include a hyperlink back to the site of origin in the message.

You don't need to be the best at spelling in the world, nor a prize-winning novelist to join in. But try to ensure your posts are as legible to everyone as can be before you post. If your point is obscure, it may not receive any level of interest, or people may reply in unexpected ways or miss the point you were trying to make.

To minimize the chances of confusion, please try to ensure that your subject topic is reflected in the title you give the post.

Please remember that because a post is not a recipient of many replies that this doesn't mean it is valued less than those which start a long discussion. We may find that you've said all there is to be said on the topic, or it simply might not spark an interest. That's the way of the world. But please continue to contribute.

Because a post receives no comments to contradict its messages does not necessarily imply agreement with it.

Visitors who post only spam and do not genuinely contribute have such posts removed as soon as they are seen and are excluded from future visits. Sexual innuendo, links to pornographic sites, hate groups, violence, or any other undesirable places on the Net are not allowed.

You should be aware that posting a topic leaves it open to a right of reply. The right to reply remains the fundamental basis for any forum and you should expect replies to any post you make.

Posts may be removed or edited at the discretion of the Admin and/or Moderators. In the interests of fair play, we will try to post a reason for an edit or a removal, but this may not always be possible or appropriate.

'Trolling" (deliberately starting a contentious issue in order to cause disorder or argument rather than for the sake of genuine exchange of ideas) is not allowed.
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Willie i dont see any new post on this forum I have tried to entre a debate but it is dead considering the spread of Tallaght where I live and taking into account and how people use the internet and take account what's going on in our lets call Tallaght our city there is no one responding here and I think it is a pity, or am I missing some thing here?
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Willie i dont see any new post on this forum I have tried to entre a debate but it is dead considering the spread of Tallaght where I live and taking into account and how people use the internet and take account what's going on in our lets call Tallaght our city there is no one responding here and I think it is a pity, or am I missing some thing here?
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I know how you feel.

In February 2006 I was on the point of giving the forum up entirely, due to lack of posts, but I decided instead to try to understand exactly what type of traffic, if any, was reaching here, other than the determined band of regulars. That's the reason the visitor counter has been added to the bottom of the Forum index page. It allows me a limited amount of tracking, especially in relation to the "referrals" received. Referrals are the pages which brought the visitor here.

Most new visitors are using Search Engines like Yahoo or Google in search of local topics or more general topical subjects. For example, the busiest period recently was around the morning of St Patrick's Day, when (despite Roderick's no-doubt good reasons for ignoring our earlier offers to provide the Tallaght St Patrick's Day Parade committee with an online advertisement section for free) twenty individuals visited the Forum in search of details of the Tallaght parade, presumably so they could attend as spectators. The Forum came out in the search engine pages in the top result for the search terms "Tallaght St Patrick's Day parade".

The forum also appears in the first page of search engine results for any topical subjects that have been posted here. For example, the structure changes made over the past year to include all local areas in their own categories means that the Forum turns up as a result on the first or second page if you put in "Tallaght" "Terenure" "Rathfarnham" etc. The same occurs when topical subjects like the new "celebrity jigs and reels" television programme is searched for, and the word "forum" added.

As is obvious, few visitors don't stay to post, despite the search engine pointing them to the information they seek. This could be because the forum is being used by them as a referral system -- the posts on the forum mention information about a subject and include a hyperlink to the source of the info, so instead of keeping the visitor here, they use the hyperlink and surf on to find more info on the exterior site. Maybe the forum is set up in such a way that it doesn't appeal to the majority of visitors. For example, the "Politics" section is active, but because of a lack of balancing posts tends towards Left-Wing politics only. This may put people off. The fact that politics are mentioned at all may put people off. Or the fact that the forum touts itself as a "locality driven" forum may mean that visitors from other places see no merit in posting here.

We have also lost visitors because the forum is moderated.

As for advertising, the forum has appeared in articles in The Echo twice now and this has had no appreciable change in the number of visitors. I have also listed it in as many popular (and obscure) directories online as I can find.

In the meantime, your posts are noted each time you make them and just because you don't get a reply doesn't mean your contribution is valued any the less. Quite the opposite in fact. Please keep posting. I know it's frustrating -- if anything, the investment of time and energy I've put into this place does, I think, mean my frustration is maybe more than yours over this -- but I for one am going to continue posting for the foreseeable future. Even if I turn out to be the only one.

If you have any (legal and moral!) ideas on how to help people stick around, by all means share them. They (both new visitors and your ideas) are more than welcome.
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Willie I know how you must feel as you have put a lot of effort into this forum I see a wide range of topics here and the there is some thing for everyone and it is local , I am allso pleased to note that you are not giving up. Willie you are a mind of information I would say to anyone on the net and especailly people who live in Tallaght to post here it is better than reading the echo T1.
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Willie I know how you must feel as you have put a lot of effort into this forum I see a wide range of topics here and the there is some thing for everyone and it is local , I am allso pleased to note that you are not giving up. Willie you are a mind of information I would say to anyone on the net and especailly people who live in Tallaght to post here it is better than reading the echo T1.


You might even see an item or two from here in the Echo... ;)
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« Reply #5 on Apr 5, 2006, 8:11am »
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;)Hi this is Ana from Spain.Just to let you know that this is the most completed web page about Tallaght area because with the different posts I can search a lot of information about associations,links to other pages...
By the way I am a bit desperate trying to find accomodation for my students in the area for next month of July.What is going on in Tallaght? We used to have so many people asking to host students in the past!!!
Hope to be luckier.
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« Reply #6 on Apr 5, 2006, 5:57pm »
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Willie i dont see any new post on this forum I have tried to entre a debate but it is dead considering the spread of Tallaght where I live and taking into account and how people use the internet and take account what's going on in our lets call Tallaght our city there is no one responding here and I think it is a pity, or am I missing some thing here?
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I know how you feel.

In February 2006 I was on the point of giving the forum up entirely, due to lack of posts, but I decided instead to try to understand exactly what type of traffic, if any, was reaching here, other than the determined band of regulars. That's the reason the visitor counter has been added to the bottom of the Forum index page. It allows me a limited amount of tracking, especially in relation to the "referrals" received. Referrals are the pages which brought the visitor here.........

For example, the "Politics" section is active, but because of a lack of balancing posts tends towards Left-Wing politics only. This may put people off. The fact that politics are mentioned at all may put people off. Or the fact that the forum touts itself as a "locality driven" forum may mean that visitors from other places see no merit in posting here....................

..............Please keep posting. I know it's frustrating -- if anything, the investment of time and energy I've put into this place does, I think, mean my frustration is maybe more than yours over this -- but I for one am going to continue posting for the foreseeable future. Even if I turn out to be the only one...........


Willie, I too think I know how you might feel frustrated at times! But don't give up!!

Singling out the Politics Section which you state yourself is most active, is hardly condusive to encouraging postings? As one of the most frequent posters on that thread, it offers me no comfort to see it described as "Left Wing". At a certain point in my life (many years ago!) I would have accepted that type of remark as a compliment!

If my postings appear as "Left of Centre" rather than the present governments "Right of Centre", I am happy that the idea of an alternative is impacting!

Alternatively, if the Admin view is that, because these viewpoints are not being counterbalanced by opposing opinions, and therefore the topic is being stifled, I would feel that that, is a form of censorship in itself.

While I'm reasonably sure that is not the intention, I too, like yourself, intend to continue posting! I would prefer some debate on issues on which I post, many of which are deliberately provocative. That the response is negligible, is hardly my fault?

Undoubtedly, when Labour and Fine Gael attain power at the next election, I will be subject to attack, when the opposition oppose!

Such is the nature of our Democracy - good opposition lends itself to better government.

If political parties receive a mandate from the electorate on the basis of pre-election proposals - it is their duty to to carry them through - not that of the opposition!

As I stated earlier, I do understand the imposition the forum places on your time, and the frustration it may at times create and I appreciate your continued efforts. If however it isn't working to your satisfaction that is regretable - but hardly a reason for committed members to adjust their viewpoints?

I for one am open to, and welcome, debate with anyone, (time & present obligations, permitting.)

Hopefully this lull will be overcome, and long may the forum continue!


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« Reply #7 on Apr 6, 2006, 6:15am »
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I've posted and deleted several replies to the above.

When did "Left Wing" become an insult?

When did posting information within our set of rules become blameworthy?

When did I criticise Liam for posting Labour-party information on the Politics board?

To clarify: If, like the television advert of old, you walk into a pub full of hoop-wearing football supporters and you're the only one wearing the opposition's colours, you are far more likely to walk out again than stay put. Fair point? Or censoring Liam?
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I am not sure if i am talking to the moderator but if i am not perhaps you can forward this on to whoever moderates the site. My question is this, i have launched a free community website www.alertme.ie that i feel will be very usefull for the ability of communities combat burglary and antisocial activity in their areas. I would like to let every community know about this. I do not wish to repeat messages if it is against the rules and the only reason i would do this is because most members will only read their own community sections, May i have permission to post it on more than one community page on your site.
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Apr 5, 2006, 8:11am, ana wrote:
;)Hi this is Ana from Spain.Just to let you know that this is the most completed web page about Tallaght area because with the different posts I can search a lot of information about associations,links to other pages...
By the way I am a bit desperate trying to find accomodation for my students in the area for next month of July.What is going on in Tallaght? We used to have so many people asking to host students in the past!!!
Hope to be luckier.
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Feb 19, 2009, 4:39pm, emperorpenguine wrote:
I am not sure if i am talking to the moderator but if i am not perhaps you can forward this on to whoever moderates the site. My question is this, i have launched a free community website www.alertme.ie that i feel will be very usefull for the ability of communities combat burglary and antisocial activity in their areas. I would like to let every community know about this. I do not wish to repeat messages if it is against the rules and the only reason i would do this is because most members will only read their own community sections, May i have permission to post it on more than one community page on your site.
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Welcome to the Boards, Anthony. Posting in the "All Areas" board would be the most appropriate way to advertise this type of service, I think.

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